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Here we go. I doubt we'll get the same gems from this debate as we did from the 2004 debate. It seems so long since the words "hardwork" and "internets". Lehrer made the smart choice of including the global markets as part of the security of America so we should get some idea of where each guy stands.
Obama calls for oversight, taxpayer protection, limits on CEO pay and bascially the highlights of the Dodd Plan. He decides to get tough an call McCain on years of deregulation.
The political stunts never stop with McCain. He first announces that Ted Kennedy is in hospital. How wonderfully bipartisan of him. He goes to bat for the House Republicans and their crazy shock doctrine specimen of a plan.
Lehrer pulls them back to the question at hand, whether or not they support the bailout plan.
McCain compares the task at hand to the D-day invasion. Obama goes back to the lack of deregulation.
Okay we cold have spent more time on the financial bailout. Moving on to government spending.
McCain quickly gets the discussion to earmark spendings. Obama counters with McCain's support for corporate taxbreaks. The earmark things seems to be stickig, Obama looks like a deer in the headights.
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McCain pulls out the inaccurate statement on high U.S. business tax rates paid as compared to other countries. Actually we have a higher statutory rate but pay less after all of the tax breaks. Thankfully Obama sets the record straight. McCain gets back on the sheriff of earmarks kick. Obama spars over the tax breaks to oil companies. McCain counters with the creepy laugh.
Back to the bailout and impact on the federal budget. So far I'm not bowled over. We've heard all of these points from both already. We will have to make changes blah, blah blah.
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McCain calls Obama liberal, oohhh that's original. Jim still can't get traction on how the bailout is going to impact the federal budget. They both seem reluctant to acknowledge that the bailout and pending financial doom will severally cripple their attempts to implement their programs. McCain answers the question for Obama. Obama reminds McCain that he was present through the Bush years when the federal spending increased.
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On to Iraq. McCain paints the predictable rosy picture. Quick! Is Al Queda shia or sunni?
Obama asks the question, has it all been worth the price. This will soon be a trillion dollar war
McCain unloads all of his ammo on Obama on his not believing in the surge. Obama reminds us the war didn't start in 2007. McCain continues to score points on his support of the surge. Obama does his best to counter. This point of the debate will be scored better for McCain. Who loves General Petraeus the mostest?
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I have to say the debate is not that exciting but that is a good thing if you are Obama. Neither one of the candidates is running away with this thing. Such a difference when compared to the first debate in 2004.
Afghanistan is next. Obama gets a tongue lashing from McCain on being brash about military strikes in Pakistan. No mention that the current administration is already doing this! Obama hits back with a hilarious reference to McCain singing about bombing Iran. He then squares up the argument that as president you can't wait to take action if danger to U.S. troops is eminent.
Take a break, we're getting a long winded lecture from McCain on the grave nature of being commander in chief.
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Let the Iran fear mongering begin. McCain proposes the league of justice or dmocracy or legion of doom, I'm not really sure. McCain suggests John Bolton be the first leader of this organization (not really).
Obama admits he buys into the Kyle Lieberman amendment, so sad.
Everyone agrees we can't tolerate a nuclear Iran. What is the approach to use in dealing with Iran? McCain uses about 200 too many words to explain why he will only meet with Iran only with preconditions.
Obama skillfully picks up that thread and makes his point on diplomacy with Iran much more easier to comprehend. A mcuh better counter than on Iraq or Afghanistan. Obama hits pay dirt with the McCain's Spain gaffe. They are a NATO ally.
Some one fact check the alleged Kissenger remarks on meeting with Iran.
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McCain is certainly up on the events around the turmoil in the Caucuses. It helps when your campaign adviser lobbies for the Republic of Georgia. He just read every damn name that appears on the map of that region, what a great geography lesson.
Obama pivots very well from Georgia to the impact of prudent energy policy. I'll admit I wasn't to sure how he would handle that topic.
Are we safer now than we were after 9/11? Obama is willing to say somewhat but more work left to go.
The take away is that both candidates held their own in their own way. No one pulled away. McCain probably salvaged his reputation by showing up and debating in earnest. Obama kept McCain in his sights and did not let him get to far of an advantage. I agree with Bo Bo Brooks that this was not a game changer.
Obama calls for oversight, taxpayer protection, limits on CEO pay and bascially the highlights of the Dodd Plan. He decides to get tough an call McCain on years of deregulation.
The political stunts never stop with McCain. He first announces that Ted Kennedy is in hospital. How wonderfully bipartisan of him. He goes to bat for the House Republicans and their crazy shock doctrine specimen of a plan.
Lehrer pulls them back to the question at hand, whether or not they support the bailout plan.
McCain compares the task at hand to the D-day invasion. Obama goes back to the lack of deregulation.
Okay we cold have spent more time on the financial bailout. Moving on to government spending.
McCain quickly gets the discussion to earmark spendings. Obama counters with McCain's support for corporate taxbreaks. The earmark things seems to be stickig, Obama looks like a deer in the headights.
***
McCain pulls out the inaccurate statement on high U.S. business tax rates paid as compared to other countries. Actually we have a higher statutory rate but pay less after all of the tax breaks. Thankfully Obama sets the record straight. McCain gets back on the sheriff of earmarks kick. Obama spars over the tax breaks to oil companies. McCain counters with the creepy laugh.
Back to the bailout and impact on the federal budget. So far I'm not bowled over. We've heard all of these points from both already. We will have to make changes blah, blah blah.
***
McCain calls Obama liberal, oohhh that's original. Jim still can't get traction on how the bailout is going to impact the federal budget. They both seem reluctant to acknowledge that the bailout and pending financial doom will severally cripple their attempts to implement their programs. McCain answers the question for Obama. Obama reminds McCain that he was present through the Bush years when the federal spending increased.
***
On to Iraq. McCain paints the predictable rosy picture. Quick! Is Al Queda shia or sunni?
Obama asks the question, has it all been worth the price. This will soon be a trillion dollar war
McCain unloads all of his ammo on Obama on his not believing in the surge. Obama reminds us the war didn't start in 2007. McCain continues to score points on his support of the surge. Obama does his best to counter. This point of the debate will be scored better for McCain. Who loves General Petraeus the mostest?
***
I have to say the debate is not that exciting but that is a good thing if you are Obama. Neither one of the candidates is running away with this thing. Such a difference when compared to the first debate in 2004.
Afghanistan is next. Obama gets a tongue lashing from McCain on being brash about military strikes in Pakistan. No mention that the current administration is already doing this! Obama hits back with a hilarious reference to McCain singing about bombing Iran. He then squares up the argument that as president you can't wait to take action if danger to U.S. troops is eminent.
Take a break, we're getting a long winded lecture from McCain on the grave nature of being commander in chief.
***
Let the Iran fear mongering begin. McCain proposes the league of justice or dmocracy or legion of doom, I'm not really sure. McCain suggests John Bolton be the first leader of this organization (not really).
Obama admits he buys into the Kyle Lieberman amendment, so sad.
Everyone agrees we can't tolerate a nuclear Iran. What is the approach to use in dealing with Iran? McCain uses about 200 too many words to explain why he will only meet with Iran only with preconditions.
Obama skillfully picks up that thread and makes his point on diplomacy with Iran much more easier to comprehend. A mcuh better counter than on Iraq or Afghanistan. Obama hits pay dirt with the McCain's Spain gaffe. They are a NATO ally.
Some one fact check the alleged Kissenger remarks on meeting with Iran.
***
McCain is certainly up on the events around the turmoil in the Caucuses. It helps when your campaign adviser lobbies for the Republic of Georgia. He just read every damn name that appears on the map of that region, what a great geography lesson.
Obama pivots very well from Georgia to the impact of prudent energy policy. I'll admit I wasn't to sure how he would handle that topic.
Are we safer now than we were after 9/11? Obama is willing to say somewhat but more work left to go.
The take away is that both candidates held their own in their own way. No one pulled away. McCain probably salvaged his reputation by showing up and debating in earnest. Obama kept McCain in his sights and did not let him get to far of an advantage. I agree with Bo Bo Brooks that this was not a game changer.
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